Christopher D.: Welcome to the Freedom Fast-Track Podcast. My name is Christopher Duncan and I’m here with a new friend someone I’m really looking forward to getting to know. Dr. Dave is the founder or the creator of Integrated Sport and Spine and we’re going to be talking about lots of things. David, it’s really great to have you here and here’s why. For me, health wellness is foundation for being successful as an entrepreneur. Me and you were talking about you are a physiologist so first, I just want to say welcome to the show.
Dr. David: Thanks for having me.
Christopher D.: Alex Charfen connected us; He’s the only person that I’ve had on the show three times. One thing that we share in common is this idea of entrepreneurs are going to change the world, an entrepreneur needs to be in momentum and actually move forward. We talked a little bit off the air and so I just want to put some context on for listeners. We’re going to talk about stress. We’re going to talk about your transition from being a chiropractor. You’re a chiropractor aren’t you?
Dr. David: Yeah, correct, sort of.
Christopher D.: I thought for a moment there, I’m like did I just make that up?
Dr. David: No. I’m a little bit of everything. Chiropractor is my main degree, yes.
Christopher D.: Got it. I’m really looking forward to learning more about you. We’re going to be showing and talking about how you help chiropractors. I guess it’s going to apply to lots of service-based business owners actually transition to online. We’re going to talk about stress. It’s going to be a wild ride but let’s start where we should start, which is let’s get a good introduction to you, where it all started and kind of where you are now. If you do us that favor, that’d be awesome.
Dr. David: Yeah, perfect. The purpose of this podcast is going to be short and quick. The brief aspect of things is that I’ve had a passion. Believe it or not, I wanted to be an NFL player in third grade. Most people kind of giggle and chuckle. I also wanted to be a doctor so my parents said, “Cool, whatever path you want to take.” Well the reality is by sixth grade I had built a gym in my basement and had all the neighborhood kids over in my basement working out by sixth grade.
This has literally been the health and wellness aspect of things has been through and through who I’ve been labeled as ever since a little kid. We talk about passion all the time. I’m sure you touch on this all the time of finding your passion and creating products around it and those sorts of things. This was my go-to. Unfortunately massive education actually can get you out that so my path of education, double major in biochemistry and molecular biology, I am a chiropractor. I also have a master’s degree in sports science and rehabilitation. I’m certified clinical exercise physiologist and strength and conditioning coach. I have a lot of stuff behind my name and all of that educated me to actually almost not give out all of my passion because at the end of the day, they teach you as a provider to peg yourself into whatever provider realm you are and that’s the only information you give out.
So, when I discovered the online world, I started drooling as this way to say, “Wow, I can start to get my information out” and currently I mostly help providers figure out that balance of getting out into the online space and really provide value for their patients. At the same time, create more freedom for their practice so that they don’t get burnt out.
Christopher D.: It’s a big thing. I started out as a personal trainer. I started out in the health niche and I share very similar dreams and aspirations to you as well. My number one growing up was I was going to be an NBA basketball player and I’d represent my country but I didn’t like it. Further than that, here’s where I find is so interesting … Is that translation to that sports mindset into businesses is actually huge. I really see the entrepreneurs that have taken off are the ones that are treating their bodies -pro athletes and getting –
Dr. David: It wasn’t a conversation for the longest time and that’s a really sad thing. When I graduated school it was, here’s your traditional business model and no help. Just go figure this out. Really no one talked about me taking care of myself as the best way to actually build my business and show and represent what I actually know.
Christopher D.: It feels like the world is waking up. It’s definitely a different world than when I started the business 12 years ago now. We talked off the air about the two different paths that we’re going to take on this interview because a man like you that’s got so much knowledge in so many things, we’ve got half an hour so I’ve got to make sure we try to use it to our best advantage.
I wanted to first off ask and have you speak to the service to health service provider or really any service provider, and how? Because you obviously coach chiropractics so chiropractors, if you’re listening, this is going to be huge. I want to go a little bit wider and I want to talk to people who do have a service and they’re transitioning online and would love to understand some of the big mistakes that they make and some of the things that aren’t working with people.
Dr. David: Well, they’re one and the same in the fact that when we start a business, we tend to already be in a different mindset, right? So, we can say that people who start their own business already are wired slightly different. They care more about things. They have a different physiology about them. Whether you’re a service provider or not, you get into this model of [inaudible 00:06:16] you’re trying to get out there and do the best that you can to make the living and that fun saying “I’d rather work 80 hours than 40 hours” kind of thing. [crosstalk 00:06:26]
Terrible, same. That’s really where the end of the conversation always happens, that we don’t talk about the stress that comes from that. Inherent, a natural thing that happens to people who start their own business, without them knowing. It’s just like back pain that suddenly comes on. The reality is that if its building for ten years, their back was bad and they’d go to bend over and pick up a paperclip and their back snaps and they wonder why. Same thing with stress and entrepreneurship. People who are aspiring to change their life, where they’re getting out of that job and starting to create their on online thing. Or whether you’re a provider and you’re sick of just showing up day and day, treating the same patients day in and day out and you’re looking for a way to do better business and create more value for your patients. The stress level keeps rising up, no matter what. We can all relate to the same thing.
Christopher D.: It’s huge. It’s really interesting and I had to write it down. You probably heard me drop something, I was getting a pen. Here’s what I really want you to expand on: You said people that start a business are wired differently, physiologically. I was like, “Holy moly, what do you mean by that?” What is that?
Dr. David: Brain connectivity problems. We obviously are all familiar with genetics and what makes us who we are. There’s also this thing called epigenetics, which is actually the expression of our genes. This can change over time, this can change when we’re being brought up and raised. People who are around entrepreneurship when they’re younger, are more likely to turn into entrepreneurs when they’re younger. We tend to follow things, based off of that and our genetics make us who we are.
Now certain chemical profiles … This is a cool thing. This is why I actually latched onto Alex Charfen in the beginning, is that the EPT mindset … In my world, we can sometimes call that “processing disorder”, where we get a whole bunch of flood of chemicals in our brain, where it’s the ADHD. We daydream, we do all of those sorts of things that most people say in school is bad, but when we hit the real world, can be good. It’s that risk-taking ability, that ability to step out and do something against the norm. Those people are wired differently, from a chemical standpoint and a neurology standpoint, to make them take that risk.
Christopher D.: Its such a big focus of mine to understand this at the [inaudible 00:09:10], you have no idea. Do you know who Joe Dispenza is? Joe Dispenza?
Dr. David: Yeah, I think so.
Christopher D.: He’s amazing, he was a chiropractor. I think that’s how he’s got his doctor in front of his name. I was watching a movie just recently, about it … Is it epigenetics?
Dr. David: Epigenetics, yep.
Christopher D.: Right. It was fascinating to me, in the fact that what stress is doing to our body but also, he talks about it in detail in a book, which is ‘Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself’. It’s a fricken amazing book, man. I’m about to read it a second time. He talks about [inaudible 00:09:50] and I feel like I’m talking to someone who knows this way better than I am. This was my understanding of it was that we have these [inaudible 00:09:55] so used to certain chemicals in our body and they are released by certain emotional states that we have.
For example, emotional states like scarcity. When they stop living in scarcity so those chemicals aren’t there anymore so these receptor sites say, “Hey, why is that chemical not there anymore?” It sends a signal up to the brain and says “This is crazy, we don’t have these same chemicals” and the brain starts freaking out and they get themselves back in scarcity mode again. Then the body goes “Ahhh”-
Dr. David: Let’s put this in relation to stress because this is exactly what stress does to us is that –
Christopher D.: Awesome!
Dr. David: Yeah, the long-term effects of stress is that … Like I said, we don’t really realize we have stress at first. We label stress wrong. I’m going to screw with this is that when we label stress as a mental health problem or when you’re over-stressed you should be less stressed. Those statements, what they’re actually talking about is the end result of a symptom, not the actual problem. When we relabel stress as a physiological aspect, a chemical process, then we can start to have a better conversation around when we first start a business; If we’re not performing at our best and taking care of our physiology, then we never get to the over stressed spot when we talk about it from a mental health aspect. That burn-out phase … That almost all entrepreneurs have to deal with.
If we reroute the conversation around that physiology aspect, then we can actually take action steps to change our physiology. When we think about it from a mental health standpoint, we think of overwhelm and almost no one does anything about mental health problems. They just say, “That’s just the way it is”, “They’re an anxious person”, “They’re a depressed person”, “Here is some medication”. The reality is that if we talk about it from a physiology standpoint, we can take very simple steps, on a daily basis, to control the physiology and never get to that stressed out spot.
Christopher D.: I would love to know, what are some of these daily steps that we could take?
Dr. David: Yeah, yeah, exactly! If we want to get into that right away, we can. I think it would –
Christopher D.: Let’s not, I’m floored with this so much that … You obviously hear me talk a lot about tactics. We hit marketing on here a bit, but we talk about mindset a lot as well. Honestly, if you’re not moving in your body the right way … Those of you watched this on YouTube, I’m at my stand-up desk and there’s a reason why I’m pretty sure that Dave is too and this is part of that.
Dr. David: Yeah.
Christopher D.: So are you on a trampoline?
Dr. David: No, I’m just barefoot and I like to spring around a lot. I have a whole bunch of foot stuff underneath me.
Christopher D.: Nice. Let’s dive straight into some of the steps. I think we were going to do it at the end but –
Dr. David: Yeah, let’s do it right away because I want to give things practical for people to actually follow. The more information … Here’s the problem with bio hacking right now. Everyone has something to sell towards bio hacking, which is actually a great thing. However, people are forgetting that there is a basis that we need to be alive. That there is this underlying concept of health of, just the basics and it sounds way too easy, therefore people dismiss it. It’s gotta be something, I gotta have this new product in order to Tenex my business. They’re looking for an app, they’re looking for a product or service that they can buy when the reality is the best Tenex for their business is to take care of themselves first.
Here’s a couple of the steps. Maybe I’m biased, I don’t know. Walking and water are the two biggest steps first. Water, being the most critical. I’ve got a little story about this. Being a provider for so long, I used to just simply ask people, “Are you drinking enough water?” Of course, 99% of people say “yes”. Then you ask a few more questions and find out that maybe 2% of the population actually drinks enough water, they just think they drink enough water. It was always hard, as a provider, to be able to say to someone … My normal protocol was, “I want you to drink enough water to make your eyeballs feel like they’re floating.”
That would stimulate some sort of conversation but it wasn’t until I came across Alex’s “Get Thirsty Now” program, where it actually regimented the water and I was like, “Oh my gosh, that makes so much sense!” Have someone follow a program when they drink water, to the timeframe because we’re so much creatures of habit. It’s almost like a challenge aspect to prove to them how dehydrated they are. That “Get Thirsty Now” program that he has, we can put a link at the end of this, is by far one of the best programs I’ve actually come across. I actually implemented that into my practice right away, when I’d come across that. And saw phenomenal results.
Getting enough water is the basis. No matter what bio hacking you do and no matter what other exercise you do, if you’re dehydrated, you’re not putting your body in the prime state to actually heal, recover and balance everything out. The walking aspect is the other big misnomer because we’ve been marketed to that running is the best thing for us. It’s a crazy correlation that I would say, if you have a high-level entrepreneur, a vast majority of them will do triathlons. It’s really big, especially in our area. Every business owner is in a triathlon here and they’re doing Ironman; Because they’ve been marketed to that’s the healthy thing for an entrepreneur to do. Go out and work out for eight hours straight, when the reality is they’re creating a stress level, right? Because exercise is stress, work is stress, family is stress. All they’re doing is increasing all of those cortisol levels, those bad stress hormones and continually keeping them up. They’re never actually bringing them back down.
That’s where walking comes in. If those entrepreneurs were to flip over and just walk for 20 minutes, they would actually see more weight loss, they would see their stress reduced, they would see their happiness go up. Most importantly … And this is at the end of the conversation on why we care about stress, is that cortisol actually makes our brain shrink. When we have high levels of stress, aka cortisol, we actually lose neuro connections in our brain for the decision-making process, the ability to have social interactions, our memory and our learning, our concentration. All of those synapses in our brain actually start to literally shrink and go away when inflammation and cortisol take over.
Water and walking are the two pillars that we start to get into. Then getting into nutrition and movement are two other pillars that I talk about. You have to have that water and walking first. If you’re going to start with anything and that’s all you think you can fit in, from a time standpoint … 20 minutes, I know that’s a lot of time. Getting that in, on a daily basis, is going to have a revolutionary effect on your body, performance, your ability to run your business. Especially for the people that are doing their business, or I should say, at work all day. They’re trying to start this online thing and they’re trying to get into the next phase of their life of starting their own business. I know I’ve been there because I was treating patients all day and staying up until 11 o’clock at night, trying to start this online thing. If I didn’t have water and I wasn’t taking care of myself, if I wasn’t going out for walks at lunch, there’s no way I could stay up past 7, 8 o’clock because I was so exhausted. Therefore, you’re not successful.
Starting with those two and then the other big thing that I’m a huge fan on is movement and fat. Fat from a nutrition standpoint of, I like to challenge people in the same way as the water. For ten days, I say to get a liter of olive oil out, like one to two packs of butter and a jug of coconut oil and you need to go though those in ten days. You just start eating it with every meal, especially right before bed. That gives you the brain-healing processing aspect that it heals those neurons in there and starts to revive your capacity to make decisions and actually think clearly.
And then movement, you and I are standing at the standing desk. Any one thing that you’re doing for an extended period of time is bad for our bodies. Whether you’re standing or sitting, it can be just as detrimental. Standing at a desk allows you to squat, move around and shift. Unfortunately, a lot of people stand still on one leg when they stand at a standing desk. So, you gotta get some squats in there and you gotta move on a regular basis, giving your joints a full range of motion. Those are the practical steps to get going.
Christopher D.: It’s so important. I’ve been following the ketone diet and high fats for a long time. Dave Aspery is a good friend and a massive inspiration and it seems to me that everyone is looking for something new and big because the simple, basic things … Just the simple and basic couldn’t possibly be that. I love what you’re talking about and I would love to just help the listeners really, really get a niche of motivation so there’s …
You know my story, listeners. You know where I came from, where I am. Here’s I do every morning. Every morning, the first thing I do is, I wake up in gratitude, I drink a liter of water with a green drink in it. And then I walk, I come back, I have my high-fat keto drink, I sit down and meditate, and I do it absolutely. I added deep breaths, I move, I stand and sit, stand and sit all day. I didn’t do this for a period of time but when I brought back that morning and these things, it was more important to me than anything else; Because one thing that I say and you say this too, I see so many people wake up in the morning and rip their muscles to shreds trying to build this big body. I see them having this … I know how much body builders have to sleep. I used to work in the gym, I’ve watched them sleep and sleep and sleep.
Dr. David: Yeah.
Christopher D.: And they both had the high levels of focus. And then they’d put so much caffeine into their body, that they’re going up and down, up and down, up and down and there’s no flat-lining so –
Dr. David: The adrenaline loop.
Christopher D.: Oh my gosh, we could just talk forever on this but let’s have a pause. We’re gonna have a slight break. I’ve got an amazing webinar coming out and I want you to hear about it. I’ll be right back with Dr. Dave, straight after the break.
Christopher D.: Hey, welcome back. I hope that if you wanted to join that webinar, that you clicked over and you got into it. It really is going to be so much potential and we’ll be having fun. I just want to rephrase you back to where we were because when we’re talking about stress, when we’re talking about the basics, when we’re talking about physiology … We want to continue on this path for a little bit longer Dave, like in the break, you and I were just talking. We were talking about how the quota is always decreasing the brain size and adrenals and hormones.
Let’s just go there, let’s just go into adrenal loops and hormones and I’d love for you to just go and tell us, why is it so important for people to know about that and what is it that you do?
Dr. David: Fine, twist my arm, I’ll get a little bit deeper. It’s one of those aspects, where like I said, most people have talked about stress from a mental health aspect in the past. If we refrain that from a physiological standpoint, the wooly mammoth is in front of us, as a business owner. We have constant stress onto us and some people handle that a little bit better, some people are a little more anxious.
I also make the argument, and this is a whole other side tangent I like to get onto is negative news media. If we’re watching the news, there’s tons of research that shows that you can easily be on a negative mindset for eight to nine hours from just watching just 3 minutes of news.
So, just getting our mindset right toward physiology … Of attacking that, in order to be the best human being that we are. If we don’t, if we don’t breathe, if we don’t walk, if we don’t get the water, we get these higher levels of cortisol. I know you can’t see me right now in my lower half, I have a “cortisol baby”, I call it … Where I am in extremely great shape. I can go out and I can do all sorts of things. But I have a stress baby in my stomach. That’s that fat tire around the waist and that comes from this hormone and chemical called cortisol, which leads to a whole bunch of inflammation.
Inflammation is, thankfully now, a term that has bene flying around the news media and those sorts of things as something we need to attack but the underlying root issue is actually the cortisol. Controlling that adrenal loop when we get excited, we get a shot of adrenaline, cortisol starts to rise and then it stays up there. Then our flammatory markers start to become very present and this is where fatigue sets in. This is why endurance athletes can be bad, this is why body building can be bad, as an entrepreneur; Because we’re over-stressing, over-fatiguing our body and not clearing out inflammation and not clearing out cortisol and that leads to long-term damage in our body. Not being able to sleep, not being able to do the things we want to do.
So it’s this vicious loop that we do to ourselves. The reality is, is that once we recognize this, we shouldn’t be the person going out in extreme workout. We have to have this balance as an entrepreneur, as someone who is trying to do a lot. You don’t add in extreme stuff on top of that. You don’t add in extreme diets and working out.
Christopher D.: Wow, what an eye-opener.
Dr. David: Yep.
Christopher D.: I’m only just starting to really realize the impact that caffeine and coffee can have on this and these things –
Dr. David: And here’s a great conversation with that is that fatigue usually happens from dehydration. What do we do? The first thing we do is grab a cup of coffee. We don’t have fat, we don’t have things to balance out the coffee. And so we get this nice little high from the caffeine or sugar, a lot of people do both, then we crash.
Quite literally, I’ve come across entrepreneurs and people that I’ve helped, where we’re not talking two to three cups of coffee in a day … We’re talking two to three pots of coffee in a day. They wonder why three months, they go on this long bender, that their body is crashing, their joints are sore, they can’t sleep at night, they have all these problems downstream. That comes from dehydration, the simple aspect of water.
Christopher D.: Wow. Now you have got a lot of this information on your new website. Where do people go to, to get … You’ve got checklists and all the downloads that they can get. Where do they go to get all that?
Dr. David: I have, through my personal clinic, Integrated Sport and Spine. It’s just called www.issmadison.com. If you’re a provider, I want to encourage you on the Facebook group to the cash-based lifestyle practice. I go much more into detail on this because providers are at a much deeper level of understanding of the need to take care of themselves. Creating value for their patients and being able to step out of the office to take care of themselves in order to better take care of their patients. So the Facebook group Cash-Based Lifestyle Practice.
Christopher D.: I love it. That’s where we’re going to head to next in this conversation. You’re being very successful in moving out of the practice and into online and you told me [inaudible 00:27:06] into practice at all so fill us in on that part of your journey. That’s really –
Dr. David: I had some really cool experiences of … Like I said, I was the traditional business mindset. When I graduated chiropractic school, I had big dreams of building a huge integrated practice. It came time at one point where I had a government contract to treat a hospital system so I was going to be in charge of 25,000 patients on top of my normal sports medicine practice that I already had.
So I got out into this big office space, 6,500 square feet. My goal was to get four providers there, have a couple of medical doctors, a couple of chiropractors, acupuncture, yoga. What it ended up being was a triathlon coaching facility. We had indoor training, indoor cycling, we had a cross-fit gym type of feel to it. We had a couple of providers. It didn’t get quite as big enough and so I couldn’t cover the overhead as much. Then the government dropped the contract.
Suddenly, I found myself like … A massive chunk of money, gone. Just in one cut? I found myself scrambling to say, “Now what am I going to do?” So, we ended up downsizing and then I really had to self-mantra. I’m in control of my own destiny. I had to literally keep telling me that, myself that. I was burnt out. I was working from 6:30 in the morning until midnight every night, I’m doing stuff. I was searching for things online to try to say, how can I better my practice? I was going through like, business development and I came across the fact that I can sell my information on line. That’s an interesting concept.
For about a year, I just sat back and watched people. I was that stalker online, I started following people like yourself, very successful, great ideas. I started looking at different aspects of it and started thinking, “I think this is the route for me.” This is my way out.
I downsized the practice, actually dropped all of insurance, which is what the Cash-Based Lifestyle is all about … Is getting the shackles torn off, so that as a provider, you can do what you want without the constraints of the patient thinking that, “Is insurance going to pay for this or not?” And just having them pay cash for the value that you’re providing. I did this all at the same time, so –
Christopher D.: Wow.
Dr. David: Yeah, it was really cool. You wanna talk about … Quite literally, the next day after I decided to go cash, I just said, “Okay, here’s my thirty-day notice.” I sent out letters, emails, I said “screw you” insurance companies, I’m leaving you. All of those sorts of things at once and I was able to take a deep breath. I was able to sleep that night so well –
Christopher D.: Wow.
Dr. David: Because I understood, from that point moving forward, that I was in control of my own destiny. That I didn’t have to follow traditional business principles in order to be successful. So now I’m at the point where I’m helping coach chiropractors and making online products. I’m creating reoccurring revenue for our office, which is like nutrition programs, condition-based aspects.
You come in, you have low back pain. Well, here’s your program. It’s a downloadable PDF for you and I have YouTube channels and all that kind of fun stuff for the videos. In all of that systematization, the ability to be online to do that, as a provider, in your practice is just so stress-relieving. It makes you feel good.
Christopher D.: Can our listeners go and find some of that information out? Or is it already in the Facebook group?
Dr. David: Well, yeah. A lot of that is from a provider standpoint, as in that Cash-Based Lifestyle Practice. A lot of it is on my YouTube channel. Like if you’re a would-be patient, if you want to call it that. You would go to my www.issmadison.com. We have a blog on there, my YouTube channel, there’s all sorts of videos on there. Everything from different rehab exercises to which meal replacement shakes and different things like that, that people can get into.
Christopher D.: I’m so intrigued by all of this and you’ve done such a great job. I’ve got two questions that I love to ask everybody. I’m going to ask you as well. I know that you fast forward to this but I’m watching the sets … This was a great episode, make sure you go back and listen to it.
All of that, but here’s the two questions. The first one is this: If right now, you lost everything, all the money, all the relationships and lost it all … And you had to start over from scratch today … How would you do that?
Dr. David: I would literally … I am actually huge into farming. Believe it or not, one of my side-passions. I would go to some remote area with satellite internet and have a little log cabin, where I literally, half of the day work my butt off surviving. Growing my own food, hunting, all of that kind of fun stuff. The other half of the day, I’d start an online information company, based off of my knowledge and I would be perfectly happy.
Christopher D.: I love it! That is such a great answer! The second part of the question is, if you had the opportunity to go back in time and sit down next to Dave, at the beginning of his entrepreneur journey, when he first comes out of school … And you had two minutes to share some advice, what advice would you give him?
Dr. David: Yeah, oh man, I was a cocky kid when I came out. So, I would literally slap myself and say, “Hey, listen up here!” I was in that mindset where I thought that I knew too much and I thought that I knew way more than I really did about business because I grew up in a small business atmosphere. I wish, going back, I would have been open to the online aspect. I was so traditionally focused, I was so focused on not getting help, not getting a coach. So those would be the two things.
I would tell myself to pay for a really nice coach instead of a mid-level coach because I felt like I knew the same as the mid-level coach but then I didn’t have any implementation so it sucked both ways. I would hire a high-level coach and I would just literally convince myself to be more open to the online aspect. Back then, blogs, and everything were around but it never seemed like it made sense from a provider standpoint because people were coming to me for chiropractic. The reality is, had I been on there talking about strength and conditioning, and exercise physiology back ten years ago, I would be in a completely different … I’d probably own nationwide clinics right now because information is the key to everything. Just getting your knowledge out there.
Christopher D.: Great advice, great advice. I feel like we’re going through that revolution right now. I feel like ten years ago, I was a personal trainer and if you were doing blogs and that sort of thing and you could make money off blogs in 2006. This was before You Chip was even out. [inaudible 00:34:19] now it’s very difficult. I feel like it’s the same with social media right now. People are going to look back and remember the [inaudible 00:34:30] and go, “Dang, I wish I started this.”
So I love that advice and anyone listening, get out there and start. Well Dave, what a pleasure. It’s been so much fun to hang out with you. We could stay on for a whole week longer and talk and it’s possible [crosstalk 00:34:43] it’s possible that we will off the air but I want to make sure that we finish up so the listeners really know they got the right information.
Here’s what I want to ask: What is the last thing you want to leave with everyone listening today? How would you like to finish off?
Dr. David: You are in control of your own destiny. You plan it yourself because you can change everything.
Christopher D.: I can’t agree with any sentence more than that one. You are in control of your destiny. I’ve loved this, from talking about cortisol to stress to how entrepreneurs are wired differently. This has been such a pleasure and entrepreneurs, we need to have more of this conversation.
Dr. David: Yeah.
Christopher D.: We need more people talking about this. We need more of us moving. Make sure you get back to the basics.
Here’s what I took out of this. I feel very relaxed talking to you. I feel like I better get the water, I’m already doing the walking. I implemented walking meetings to my company recently and so it feels good. It feels really good to know that if you take care of the basics, it’s all there. So I’m going to go get myself a big glass of water I think.
Dr. David: Yeah. Because you see my mason jar here?
Christopher D.: I’ve been watching you drink it out of a nice glass, a mason jar.
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