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Welcome Freedom Fastrackers, today we’re in for a really, really cool [inaudible 00:00:33]. I’m here with Joshua from The Best Deodorant In The World, and we were just talking on the air Joshua about a lot of things man. You’re from Canada, and I’m sitting in Singapore, but I’m from New Zealand. First thing, I’m so grateful for this internet and I’m also grateful to be able to be here and talking to you today man, thanks for coming on.
Joshua: Hey Chris, thanks so much brother. I appreciate you bringing me on today, it means the world to me. My wife Margaux and I are huge fans of you guys and what you’re doing with your podcast and your companies, and your seminars, and events, and everything that you got going on man, your new physical product company, you guys are absolute rock stars and we protect our time so heavily, but when we got an invite from you to come share and hopefully inspire some of your fans, then we couldn’t say, no.
Christopher : Thanks man, and that means the world. The same for us, I mean [Harriet 00:01:26] and I were just talking yesterday about your product, you know, The Best Deodorant In The World has changed our life, like literally. For so long we were struggling with trying to find a deodorant that didn’t have all the crap in it that actually worked.
Joshua: Our story, I’m going to speak for Margaux as well, we have a newborn baby too, we’re on baby number three, so Margaux was unable to be here with me, but she’s with the new baby. Our journey started together 13 years ago, even prior to that we were entrepreneurs at our core. None of us came from much, I came from a single home with just my mom.
You know what, I’ll share a little bit of that story, and then kind of how it evolved, because I think it’s really important to know I came from nothing. I remember sleeping when I was just a little, little kid, like in a laundry hamper with clothes as my bed because we literally had nothing. Growing up my entire life I saw my mom struggle to put food on the table and keep a roof over our head, and as a single mom she was working non-stop and we didn’t grow up in a good neighborhood so I started to hang out with the wrong group of people, got involved in crime, got involved … never doing drugs, which is phenomenal, but definitely in that world, which then got me involved in a gang, which then got involved something that most people could only hear on the news, but involved in a gang war where I was involved in a shootout one day, and that was a real eye opener for me.
These are stories that I’ve never really shared, but I think it’s important that it doesn’t matter where you came from, your future can be whatever you want it to be. I came from that, got pushed out of high school, didn’t officially graduate, they kind of gave me a diploma so I would leave, so as that kind of kid, as always an athlete I ended up becoming a professional athlete.
What happened was I had over 17 concussions half of which were knocked unconscious. I was not able to continue playing sports anymore so that kind of opened my eyes, I had to choose a different path and I figured I should go to university, get a degree … because that’s what everyone was saying you should do.
Got into university on a sports scholarship, again, if it wasn’t for sports I probably would be dead. Right after getting in I quite playing basketball for the school because it’s not what I wanted to do, I just wanted to get into school, but I was in, and it was cool.
After my first year Margaux and I kind of reconnected, we’d known each other for a long time, and we both were like, this isn’t what we want to do, and this was the start of our entrepreneurial journey. We had no idea what we wanted to do, we ran into someone who was a real estate developer and we were like, “Wow, that sounds cool, we should do that.”
I came from nothing, Margaux didn’t come from much, and somehow we raised a million dollars and built our very first townhouse development, and we actually won the best development of the year award for that. That was the start of our entrepreneurial journey together. I always look at it and say, because we didn’t know any different, we didn’t know things weren’t possible, we didn’t know that two young 20 year old people with no experience or background could go out and raise a million dollars and then build a townhouse development with no construction background, and succeed at it.
Christopher : I just have to pause you for a second because I need you to know just how crazy similar you and I are. [inaudible 00:05:19] I didn’t know anything about this, and I don’t think Joshua knew this either. I played basketball for my country, I played for New Zealand, I got a scholarship to go to university because of basketball. I had an injury that stopped me playing basketball. Before that I was in so much trouble, I was standing in front of courts [crosstalk 00:05:43]. I got kicked out of high school [inaudible 00:05:47] given a free ticket to university because I was just in so much trouble and had to learn how to make money to pay off all these debts that I owed to the government in New Zealand. I’m like the [inaudible 00:05:58] I’m listening to you say this I’m going, “Holy crap, this is literally insane, I’ve never experienced this before, this is so cool.” I just wanted to let you know that that’s creepy.
Joshua: It gave me goosebumps, and it’s amazing because we’ve never spoken before in our lives and other than a few real great mutual friends. That’s the way we got connected. That’s incredible, our stories are so close, amazing, amazing. Thanks for sharing that.
Christopher : You made the money and you just did it because you didn’t know anything else, and I think that’s such an important part. Also, I always find sports people. I think brother, as sports minded people I think creates such success, and I’m going to bring that up a little bit later as well, but I’d love you to continue. You made all this money, made the development with the townhouses. What next?
Joshua: What happened after that is, that’s when Margaux and I started to learn about the internet, which was about 13 years ago or so now, but that’s where we really started to discover the internet. We got involved in network marketing at the time. I’m not a fan of it, I’m not someone who’s going to promote it or endorse it, it was definitely a great experience, we learned a lot, we actually became- In the two years we were involved in that industry we became one of the top earners in a global company that was in some 50 some countries, we were in the top 10 earners of that company. We did really well, and I always attribute it to, we didn’t know any different, we didn’t know even what that industry was at the time.
What happened was, at the end of our two year period … because it’s a story that people hear all the time, work for a season, or work for a couple years and get paid for the rest of your life, which we quickly realized is a big load of shit … what happened was at the end of the two years [inaudible 00:07:51] like hey, you know what, we’ve worked 80 hours a week for two years, why don’t we enjoy each other and start traveling for ourselves? We just stopped, we just kind of disconnected from everything and started traveling and having fun.
One day we woke up and we weren’t getting paid anymore, you go from a very, very substantial income which you justify your lifestyle with it, with beautiful houses and cars, and it’s gone. They knew we couldn’t fight it, so it really opened our eyes to that space, they didn’t want to pay someone who was no longer supporting or building that business. Yeah, it was an awesome experience.
What we did do at that point, is we then started consulting because we got to know a lot of really great people in that space, we started consulting within a lot of these corporate networking marketing companies, which really opened our eyes to the way they really treat people and how they view their distributors and things like that. After about a year or so of that we realized we didn’t want anything to do in that space ever again, it was just not for us, it didn’t jive with who we were as people, and [inaudible 00:09:02] that point we were trying to figure out … this was when gold was really starting to spike in the marketplace.
I think it was right around 350 when we got involved, and we started a gold and silver refinery up in British Columbia, Canada, and we had a great run with that for a year-and-a-half or so until it … it started getting really scammy at that point. Everyone was coming in and claiming to buy gold online and people getting scammed, and we didn’t want to be involved in it anymore at that point. We had a good run, had fun, tons of experience, and it was kind of at that point where we had a bit of a health scare. Margaux was constantly having migraines and chest palpitations and was going to the hospital literally once a month for something, and we were young and on the outside we looked super healthy, we were always active, always into something, and I started developing two lumps in my chest. It was an eye opener for us.
What we did, is we started … this was kind of the real switch where we started looking into health, nutrition, and toxins, and environmental toxins, and everything that starts playing a role in our health. The lumps in my chest … I’d show you if my video worked, for some reason it’s not … they were really close to my armpit and the only thing the doctors, the specialists, and we could come up with, was it’s probably attributed to different toxins within deodorant. I’d used Old Spice … I’m not saying it was Old Spice … but I’d used Old Spice since I was a kid and they have a lot of harmful ingredients in that product.
It opened our eyes and that’s when Margaux was like, “I’m going to make my own deodorant.” because we literally bought every natural deodorant on the shelf at the time and nothing worked, and being active, and we were always sweating, and Margaux didn’t like [inaudible 00:10:52]. That’s when she really decided that we’re going to make one, and it was never to sell or anything like that. That would be eight years ago or so, ish, but it was really cool, she created it, never thought of it as a business, we were still doing- At that time we were actually doing, again, more consulting and speaking, and we just kind of kept going with that. Then what happened is some friends and family wanted to try the product and then some stores wanted to carry the product, and it just grass-roots grew that way, and literally over the course of a few years we figured, “Okay, well, we should really turn this into a company.” because it wasn’t a company, it was nothing.
We ended up doing well over a 100,000 people just to [tap 00:11:41] to find a formula that was just amazing. We spent a ton of money not realizing how much it actually cost to setup a physical product company, developed a product that actually worked, and then we’re like, “Okay, well, let’s get it out there.” Then it’s like, “Oh wow, well, you know [inaudible 00:11:58] 10,000 units for this it’s like 80 [inaudible 00:12:02]. Tons of research, tons of testing, then we manufacture everything in North America, we have a factory in Canada, and a factory in the United States. All our packaging now, the one that you have is kind of the collectors edition now, but all the new stuff is all custom made for us so you can’t get it anywheres else.
The new boxes the product comes in, everything, the costs just to get to the point before you order your final product is astronomical, and that’s something no one ever told us, so we never took an investor on ever, what we always did during this process is we either flipped some properties to get some investments through that … because we already had experience with that … or we would take on consulting clients in that 50 to 100 thousand dollar range, to again fund research and development, and getting these things to the next level.
Yeah, it’s been that period and it’s kind of at that stage now where it’s that next state of, “Okay, the next investment’s about a million dollars, and how are we going to structure that without getting an investor?” That’s kind of been the journey with that.
Christopher : What a great journey man. There’s a few big points I really love [inaudible 00:13:18]. You know I’m just very inspired by your ability to shift and make things happen, it’s phenomenal. The thing that I love is that you really, really, really seem to win at what you do, and that’s awesome brother.
Joshua: Sorry, Chris, just on that point, because I think it’s important for people to know. I don’t mean to cut you off at all. Two things, one, we designed this as a lifestyle company for us, which means the last two-and-a-half years we’re kind of settled now in British Columbia, Canada, but the two years before that we traveled the world with our kids while growing this company, which a lot of people don’t think you can do with a physical product company, but we traveled and lived in six or seven different countries with our kids.
The other side of that is, we went bankrupt in this process, we’re completely transparent. We lost everything, everything, but because … just like you guys … we know how to start again, we know where your value lies, that’s something you can’t forget, is what your personal value is to the world. It was never an issue for us to go back out and create more revenue and start over, but I think it’s important that people know, when you’re playing at a bigger level your losses are huge.
Christopher : I’m with you man. I feel you on that one. For us we’ve got such an aligned journey, I mean we went vegetarian and [Harriet 00:14:57] vegan for 2 years after she suffered massive migraines, [Harriet 00:15:01] went gluten-free, and always on such a big path on how do we get the most [inaudible 00:15:10] and what’s the truth? I guess what it really seems is you’re a truth seeker as well, and after actually getting out there and finding the truth, and finding the new way- I feel like so many people right now are just on this new vibe and this new way, and that’s just so cool isn’t it? It sometimes just blows me away about how many people are awake to this new stuff, it’s absolutely freaking exciting.
What’s next for you guys? You’re looking for a larger- What’s that next level, where are you guys headed?
Joshua: The next level for us right now is taking this company- We set a goal that we would love to hit 10 million dollars in 2017, whether or not we do it I could care less, even if we come close I’m happy, but we’ve redesigned everything. You go to the site right now it’s the old site and it hasn’t been touched because I just don’t care [inaudible 00:16:04] focused on the new one, and merging our family of products under that new-
Joshua: Margaux and I, we are completely focused with our kids, our kids are number one in our life, spending time with them trumps everything else in the world, and giving them a better start than what we had, and the information that we learned over the last 13 years together about nutrition, and toxins, and environmental toxins, and how they affect our bodies, and the ingredients in food and how they interact with our chemistry and how all these things play a role in how we live. We want to set our kids up for a better future, but also this company.
You’ll see this as the new site and everything roles out, it has a huge focus on education, there’s going to be a podcast and video series, and education component built into it where we share literally our last 13 years of experience of going down this path ane eliminating toxins and adding in specific types of foods and nutrients, and what that means and what that does. That’s going to be a huge component of the company moving forward. It’s not about selling deodorant, that’s kind of a byproduct, but our mission is really to go out and impact people with this.
Christopher : When an entrepreneur shifts into contribution like that, the world just opens up. I think I’ve listened to people, I see [inaudible 00:18:41], the opposite, you know, chase the money, chase the money, chase the money. [inaudible 00:18:48] is, it’s kind of level one, you need to get out of the gate eventually and actually make some revenue [inaudible 00:18:54] gained your skills and do the [golf 00:18:58] thing, then the shift happens when it really focuses on contribution and making something bigger and better than yourself.
I’d love to ask you, was that true for you? Did you have a moment where it shifted from the money to doing something bigger, or it was it just always about doing something bigger?
Joshua: It was always about something bigger, but you lose focus. I find when we were younger, I’m not old, but when we were younger, you really had to focus on- I think a big part of that was, we came from nothing, and the fact that- We went through a phase where we were driving the biggest fanciest car in our city, and that made me feel good, but that was a such a bad reason to do it, but it was a shift.
Literally, that moment when we lost everything, you know, we lost our house, we had no food, we had no money to buy food, it was literally starting from scratch, that was ar real eye opener to come out and provide contribution at a higher level. If you look for Margaux and I online you won’t find much, because you don’t need to have a persona and all this stuff online to be successful in business, but what we discovered through this process is we have a great skillset that adds tons of value to other people and that we can help them grow their companies and we can leverage that and help us grow our company.
We took the approach that if you’re honest and just don’t lie … because you know as well as I do, we’re in the same circles and when you’re on Facebook everybody’s newsfeed is just full of rubbish and all these people claiming to make you a bunch of money. First of all, I’m not saying ads don’t work and some of those people aren’t super successful, because a lot of them are good friends of mine and they do great work and they’re very successful, but you don’t need to do that to be successful on the internet.
Most of those people it’s just a big fraud, it’s a big facade, they’ve never made money for themselves ever in any space, yet they’re out there saying, “Hey, let me teach you how to become super successful on the internet.” It’s dropping that whole, stop fucking lying. If more people would stop lying, no one cares what kind of car you’re driving, no one cares what house you live in.
We moved from fancy homes, and big cities, and fancy cars that are flashy, to, we live up in the mountains in British Columbia in a half eco house powered by nature and we drive big pickup trucks because that’s what we like and that’s what gets us around, and that’s what keeps us safe. It’s not about the other stuff anymore. Once you realize who you are you can figure that out.
Christopher : That’s a huge part of it, is actually realizing that part. It’s said that man first learned to talk and then next thing went to lie straight away because there seems to be this abundance … and I talked about one of our big mutual friends, Alex, a lot about this is, this abundance of coaches, coaches to coach coaches, [crosstalk 00:21:57] coaching. It can draw in people at that lower level wanting just to get out the gutter, get out of the rut, get out of that stuck place, and I feel like it can really hold people down, especially if the information isn’t valid.
Let’s [inaudible 00:22:18] little parts of this. What would be your advice or tips to that new entrepreneur that’s got their products and is wanting to get moving? How would you coach them from a place of having already done it right now?
Joshua: I’d just tell them, if they’re in a physical product company and they’re not doing, fulfilled by Amazon, buying it on Alibaba, or something like that, they literally went out, developed a product. First of all, I would say, whatever your product is, make sure it’s the best. Our company became called “The best deodorant in the world,” because our customers were saying … we never had a brand … were saying, “It’s the best deodorant ever used.” We’re like, “Oh shit, we should just call it the best in the world.”
What we’ve done recently, we took our formula which took years and 100,000s if not a million dollars to get that formula to where it is, and we’ve recently hired a lady who for 40 years have been formulating natural products, and we gave it to her … no one’s ever seen our formula other than her … we gave it to her and asked her to make it better, because why should we stay at a certain level? We know it can be better, so we’ve paid her a fortune, now to get it to the next level because it’s worth it to us.
Whatever your product is, don’t come out with a product that’s inferior or as good as whoever you’re going up against. Get it better, make it better or you’re not going to last. Sure you can go out with fancy marketing techniques and what not and get a spike and do okay, but it doesn’t take long for people to find out how crapy it is.
That’d be my first piece of advice, is stand out from a product standpoint. Second one is, understand how much it actually costs to do this. It’s not selling info products. You see people go belly up all the time selling info products, add some R&D to the equation, add product minimums to the equation, add all this stuff, it changes. I think it’s really important to understand that it’s not cheap to do it, and you need to have … whether it’s an investor, which we’ve never had, we’ve always been our own investor … I’d never be opposed to taking one on if it’s the right partner, but come up with a backend strategy that you can fund your company. The last thing you want to do is take your personal finances, drain your bank account, put yourself in a precarious situation to fund something that you’re not 100 percent sure it’s even proven if it’s going to work.
Those would be my first two step. Prove that it works, make sure it’s better, and make sure you have enough money to get it over the hump.
Christopher : I think that that second thing, having enough money, if you really going to go into the products, that’s something to really consider because- Also, to feel and feel into abundance. This is something I learned right down the end of my entrepreneur journey, is that there are actually people out there that want to invest in products and if you tell the truth and share in a happy to play win-win they do have the money.
Coming from New Zealand and maybe it’s a bit different growing up in North America, maybe there’s a little bit more access, but I always felt that you had to get this Facebook idea to attract a million bucks or half a million bucks, and what I’ve realized in my second part of my decade of being a entrepreneur is just how much people do want to invest in people who have great ideas and great products. I just want to put some weight behind that and say, people can go out there and find it, it’s there.
Self-funding is also fun.
Joshua: It would be nicer to keep all that money yourself, but when you have a vision and a dream- Let me share this story because I think it’s important because we are talking about physical products and money to get over the hump and how things can happen, and Alex knows this story because he was working with us directly when this happened.
We were in the process of switching manufactures from South Florida to Portland, Organ, and we had one last shipment shipping out from Florida to our American distribution center. Normally we ship FedEx or UPS and for some reason the manufacture shipped it through some third-party shipping company I’d never even heard of, and we had about 20,000 units disappear. If you put that to a dollar figure, it’s $100,000 in product minimum, you add everything else to that, gone. Boom.
The insurance on the product based off what the people who shipped it, it was $5,000. It wasn’t even worth my time to go through the months of paperwork to try and claim $5,000, but this is something that puts little tiny things like this can put people out of business overnight. We’re not seeling e-books, we’re not selling digital courses, this is really physical products, and we have to understand that things happen that are completely out of your control, maybe it’s the universe sending me a sign and maybe I pissed somebody off and that was a way of getting back at me, I don’t know, that comes with speaking the truth I guess. But yeah, the things that happen in the physical space …
Christopher : I love that, you’re so right. I’ve got two questions man, and I ask it every time. I think these two questions, most listeners skip to, because I’m watching my stats listeners and I know that you’ve skipped to this part, and it’s that part again, but listen to the rest of the episode it was great. These two questions everybody loves, because what they do is they really try to draw out what it is that as somebody [inaudible 00:28:27] where they want to be would do. The first part of the question says, if you could time travel and go back to the beginning 13 years ago when you were starting and you had five minutes to sit and give that old version of you advice … let’s just pretend that’s right now … what would you say?
Joshua: If I traveled back 13 years I’d say, first of all stop lying, be true to yourself, go get an investor. That’s what I’d tell myself 13 years ago, but when we got to the point with this company, I had enough skillsets and Margaux had enough skillsets that we could help other companies impact their revenue from a positive standpoint and get paid well for that, and it doesn’t take a ton of effort on our side to do those things, so we were able to do that and then invest that money into this company, so 13 years ago I wouldn’t have had the skillset, so I definitely would have said, prove the model, make sure there’s demand, go out and get somebody to stand behind you.
Christopher : Nice. The other part of the question is this, if right now you lost it all [crosstalk 00:29:48] all the connections, all the money, all the social media, there’s nothing, you literally get wiped and you had to start again, how do you start? What are the steps you take and how do you make it happen?
Joshua: I never say enough about Margaux, she is the heart that makes this engine beat when it comes to all of our companies, and if we lost today, like we literally woke up tomorrow and had no connections, we just had our skillset and what we’re good at and can accomplish and were going into the physical products, I would go out with Margaux, she is the- When it comes to connections and getting to know powerful people in powerful places she is the queen of the world at that. She knows everybody who matters in any space that we’re in. That’s where I would start.
I will say, I would go out- J Abram said it best I think, I would find someone who has the audience that I need for my product and partner with them. That’s probably one of the most eye opening things I heard years ago from him among with a billion other things. Literally, if you’re a physical product company and you don’t have an investor and you literally just say, okay, I’ve got the prototype, I know there’s people looking for it … because you can get to that point really inexpensively and quite easily … is then say, okay, who [inaudible 00:31:20]? Who is that person that has my audience?
If you make engines for scooters then maybe your ideal partner is someone who makes engines for lawnmowers and they don’t run the second shift of their factory, so you go to them, you partner with them and you have a great partnership. They’re going to produce all your engines fully on your dies, and then they have an adience already that can use that type of product and you’ve got the reach. That’s what I would do.
Christopher : Partnerships is always the fastest way. I feel that the young entrepreneur and the new entrepreneur [inaudible 00:31:56].
Joshua: Self-made man is an amazing podcast that we listen to all the time. It’s tight, it’s like yours, it’s great content, it’s tight, it’s to the point, and you can always leave with something powerful. Garrett J. White, I’m a huge fan of Garrett’s, he speaks the truth, he’s on a mission, he’s helping men, which is good. A big thing for Margaux kind of on our next step here is helping families live a better life, helping families reconnect with each other, husbands and wives. We put our relationship above anything else, we put our kids above anything else, and we spend more time working on ourselves and our relationship, and relationship with our kids than we do on anything else.
You know many of the people I know, and see it all the time, they lose focus on the wife, they lose focus on their husband, lose focus on the kids, they cheat on each other, there’s so much stuff that goes on, they disconnect which then leads them to look elsewhere and it’s not good. This journey’s kind of led us to that point of seeing that so many people that we know and work with, their relationships fall apart and the relationship with their kids fall apart because they’re not focused on that, they simply focus on the business side.
Anybody who has kids, we follow more kids in the parenting space than the business space, Dr. Peter Gray, Free to Learn, if you want to read a book [inaudible 00:33:35] Garrett White, Dr. Peter Gray.
Christopher : That gives a good rundown of exactly- I feel you brother, I feel you. Mike does have a great podcast, it’s awesome. I feel like we could just sit here and just talk for ages, and I really feel like … and I said this at the beginning but I think it might have been off air … that I felt we were just catching up like old friends, but for the first time. It’s been a very different episode I guess of the Total Freedom podcast because I kind of feel like I’m just sitting here getting to know you, and it’s been extremely valuable to listen and hear some of your insights and what you’ve done.
Here’s my brief summary is, what I get from you is the ability to take action, but also to know your truest and highest values, you stay true to highest goals and what really matters to you. Your ability to be stunningly honest is so obvious that it’s leads to a massive amount of success. I love you talked about partnerships. In nearly every sense I get the feeling that collaboration is huge to you. If you were to give advice it would to collaborate with someone who can invest and then if I’m starting from now I would have my wife help us get partnerships is really, really cool.
Man, we do have to wrap up the show, I’m sure we’re going to be connecting more, but I’d love to ask, is there anything else you’d like to leave with the listeners today? What feels right for you?
Joshua: You know, the only thing I would leave with everybody, thank you for summarizing it that way, you give me too much credit, and it definitely does feel like we’ve known each other for years which is really nice, it’s very special. I really can’t wait to meet you guys, you seem like such an incredible couple, I know one of these days our paths will cross for sure.
I think it’s important to know, and anybody who hasn’t read Alex Sharpton’s book Entrepreneur Personalty Type, you should read it if you’re an entrepreneur because it definitely speaks to who we are as individuals and brings a lot of clarity to things, understanding that you’re not broken.
I don’t talk about it a lot, but I’m a bit bipolar, I have days where I am on and I am on fire and I am just on a mission to change the world and move boulders, than there’s days where I’m just clinically depressed and don’t want to get out of bed. It’s hard, not everyday is like this, literally, let me just tell you really quick how my day looks.
Everyone’s always like, “I’m up at 5, I do this I do that, I go to the gym, I work all these hours, blah, blah, blah.” Margaux and I, when it comes to our company work very few hours. We get up at 5:30, we do some exercise, kids get up, we do breakfast together, our kids are now going to a nature school, so literally from 6:30 to 10:30 we’re doing family time with our kids, then they’re kind of in a nature program for a few hours, that’s when we get the bulk of our work done, so in any given day we do four solid hours of laser-focused work to get all the things done that need to be done.
We have a small team, but within those four hours we get everything done. Anybody who tells you you need to work 13, 14, 16, 18 hours a day, that’s absolute insanity. You don’t need to, you just need to be productive in the time that you work. We pick up our kids, and then all five of us hang out and we do family time again until 6:30 or so when the kids go to bed, then Margaux and I have special time together and I might do another hour or so before bed.
I think it’s important for people to hear that because every time I listen to somebody it’s literally like, “Yeah, I get up early, I work all day, have supper, I work all night.” I think if you are focused on what you really are after you can get a lot done in a short period of time.
Christopher : I just took a bunch of notes on that, that sounds like a fantastic [inaudible 00:37:27], it really does. I’m going to put that in the show notes for everybody so they can go and have a look and see that it’s possible.
Joshua: That comes down to- I don’t want to say people’s priorities are messed up, but a lot of them are messed up. They put going out and making money and growing their company way above their kids and their spouse, and then they wonder why they’re so disconnected. I find if I’m connected with my wife, my queen, my kids, my work, my workouts go so much better, my health is better, my work just thrives, it’s amazing how that happens, but it’s just rearranging what’s really important in life.
Christopher : Right. Brother, what a great way to finish. Listeners, I highly recommend you get over to the BestDeodrantInTheWorld.com, try it out, you’ve got my recommendation, I’ve been using it for the last few months, it changed our life [inaudible 00:38:25] best place to go right now, really. It’s safe enough to eat [inaudible 00:38:33] going they make so much sense [inaudible 00:38:34]. This one is safe enough [inaudible 00:38:41] sense. We didn’t go into it too much because we were talking about [inaudible 00:38:47]. I think maybe if we could Margaux we have [inaudible 00:38:50] conversation that I think listeners would love to hear more about toxicity and removing all those things, but just massive heartfelt thanks man. Thanks for being on the show, thanks for [inaudible 00:39:02], really appreciate you.
Joshua: Yeah man, I appreciate you having me on, it means a lot. If you ever want to just have Margaux on, she’s got two books coming out this year that were both co-authored. One specifically about toxins in food, and another one on parenting, but yeah, if your audience wants that stuff you let her know. We appreciate you guys, it means a lot you had us on, we really look forward to supporting you guys in your growth to.
Christopher : Thanks brother. Listeners out there, live with freedom, for your mind, for your time, for your life, like, subscribe, and share this episode and we’ll see you on the next show. Bye for now.
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